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	<title>Comments on: Other peoples&#8217; views on the 2020 summit</title>
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	<description>Andrew Bartlett has been active in politics for over 20 years, including as a Queensland Senator from 1997-2008. This blog started in 2004 and reflects his own views, independent of any political party or organisation.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-107123</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zen: 


Thats right absolute nonesense.
Some idiot even bought up death duties &quot; Unbelievable&quot; probably some ALP Corporate Capitalist stooge.  I think the ALP was more believable when they were the communist ALP prior to the split.  At least then they admitted to being comos and allowed decent folk to join the DLP


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zen: </p>
<p>Thats right absolute nonesense.<br />
Some idiot even bought up death duties &#8221; Unbelievable&#8221; probably some ALP Corporate Capitalist stooge.  I think the ALP was more believable when they were the communist ALP prior to the split.  At least then they admitted to being comos and allowed decent folk to join the DLP</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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		<title>By: zen</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-104386</link>
		<dc:creator>zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rather be interested in what was discussed/debated and decided at the pre-summit organised prior to 2020 summit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather be interested in what was discussed/debated and decided at the pre-summit organised prior to 2020 summit.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-103927</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the summit worked just because people were invited to talk for a change instead of bitching and whining at each other.

If there had been consensus there would have been no point at all.  It is the ongoing debate that matters not the egos of the few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the summit worked just because people were invited to talk for a change instead of bitching and whining at each other.</p>
<p>If there had been consensus there would have been no point at all.  It is the ongoing debate that matters not the egos of the few.</p>
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		<title>By: 2020 in Hindsight &#171; LDP</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-103314</link>
		<dc:creator>2020 in Hindsight &#171; LDP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2020 in&#160;Hindsight  Well without going too much into detail (as that has already been done in numerous places) I found most of the resolutions coming out of 2020 to be quite predictable. The ALS provides a nice round up of key points, and Senator Andrew Bartlett&#8217;s blog provides a good compilation of the various opinions found around the blogosphere. Views range from highly unimpressed (those on the extreme left and extreme right) to more supportive (general the &#8220;moderate&#8221; [populist?] commentators). Most suggestions involved the government &#8220;fixing&#8221; some kind of problem (real or perceived) so naturally the LDP opposes most of the measures suggested. It isn&#8217;t that the ideas were without merit (though some- such as banning smoking for people born in 2008 or later and revoking citizenship for those unable to pass a &#8220;climate test&#8221;- fall into this category) but rather that the entire weekend seemed to be focused on encouraging the government to engage in social engineering. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2020 in&nbsp;Hindsight  Well without going too much into detail (as that has already been done in numerous places) I found most of the resolutions coming out of 2020 to be quite predictable. The ALS provides a nice round up of key points, and Senator Andrew Bartlett&#8217;s blog provides a good compilation of the various opinions found around the blogosphere. Views range from highly unimpressed (those on the extreme left and extreme right) to more supportive (general the &#8220;moderate&#8221; [populist?] commentators). Most suggestions involved the government &#8220;fixing&#8221; some kind of problem (real or perceived) so naturally the LDP opposes most of the measures suggested. It isn&#8217;t that the ideas were without merit (though some- such as banning smoking for people born in 2008 or later and revoking citizenship for those unable to pass a &#8220;climate test&#8221;- fall into this category) but rather that the entire weekend seemed to be focused on encouraging the government to engage in social engineering. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PHOENIX REPUBLIC &#171; DUCKPOND</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-103284</link>
		<dc:creator>PHOENIX REPUBLIC &#171; DUCKPOND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew Bartlett has a seemingly comprehensive round up on blog summit postings. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Andrew Bartlett has a seemingly comprehensive round up on blog summit postings. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: philip travers</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-103283</link>
		<dc:creator>philip travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Andrew!Come and live in N.S.W. please,fuck Queensland!The Iemma government is so bad,I reckon you could enter up in the State House,without trying that hard!Look at the housing thing today about public housing in the opinion part of the SMH...Then what is happening with lasers ,and the Police.Some even conciliatory statements towards embattled parts of Unions would even go down well as being completely honest and trustworthy.And the visit by the Pope is like the devil buzzing in everyone&#039;s ears.Unless a miracle occurs!   I dont understand how Morris and the quick thinking ALP have got themselves into this,accept if they see their role as entirely campaigning,which was analysed, as such, early.With the Democrats,and yourself,you wont be doing that,because there is no reason to.You either pass or fail as people, governing.And the Greens need some companions,so they think a bit more cleverly and clearly,about matters,although they are as disheartened,honestly, as anyone else,about how N.S.W. is being governed right now.Even Stoner is rising to the occasion,but,doesnt quite do enough homework.The Libs are pulsing,but just seem to not have the community on board,use to being part of the bigger features of two party solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Andrew!Come and live in N.S.W. please,fuck Queensland!The Iemma government is so bad,I reckon you could enter up in the State House,without trying that hard!Look at the housing thing today about public housing in the opinion part of the SMH&#8230;Then what is happening with lasers ,and the Police.Some even conciliatory statements towards embattled parts of Unions would even go down well as being completely honest and trustworthy.And the visit by the Pope is like the devil buzzing in everyone&#8217;s ears.Unless a miracle occurs!   I dont understand how Morris and the quick thinking ALP have got themselves into this,accept if they see their role as entirely campaigning,which was analysed, as such, early.With the Democrats,and yourself,you wont be doing that,because there is no reason to.You either pass or fail as people, governing.And the Greens need some companions,so they think a bit more cleverly and clearly,about matters,although they are as disheartened,honestly, as anyone else,about how N.S.W. is being governed right now.Even Stoner is rising to the occasion,but,doesnt quite do enough homework.The Libs are pulsing,but just seem to not have the community on board,use to being part of the bigger features of two party solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=2007&#038;cpage=1#comment-103274</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

Will you be continuing this blog come July? It would be a great shame to see it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>Will you be continuing this blog come July? It would be a great shame to see it go.</p>
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